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Socrates wishes to know what are pious(holy) and impious(unholy,evil) things. Furthermore, he wishes to know if things are pious because they are loved by the gods or are they loved by the gods because they are pious and then if all pious thing are just or are all just things pious to an end. he wants to know how things are lable as pious or impious,he understands that they are polar opposites but eagers his friend euthyfro to elaborate on how these matters of religion and morality come together and which is a part what, is morality the product of religion or is religion a result of moral issues.The age old question, which came first,the chicken or the egg?if it where the egg,how did it come
ReplyDeleteto be,where it the chicken, did it come from an egg????
The relationship between the gods and peity is that that of apraisal of the just things, the measurement of what is holy and just and what is loved and dispised by the gods. The gods serve as a guideline to just things and just things are as a result, pious and pious loved and dear to them. The gods love sacrifice, then sacrifice is a pious thing and as a result, just.so the gods love holy things because they are just and holy things are just because it is dear to them.
From all this I learned to question the order of things. Why are they in such order and if the end result is what to be expected from the order of things. Is religion one thing and morality another,are they the by-product of the other?do they go hand in hand? Who takes account for these? so what makes things holy and/or righteous and to what end should these actions be carried out?I believe it might be where your heart lies,impulse,the important thing is making up your mind or simply a matter of trusting in the limitations of ones'
capability of understanding.
Samantha Jones
ReplyDeleteSocrates questions Euth if his knowledge in religion and of things pious and impious very exact, and questioning if he is afraid in doing an impious thing by going against his father in his action. Socrates shows great interest in religious questions.
Euth saids that will be doing a pious thing by prosecuting any one that is guilty of murder,sacrilege or any other similar crime anyways even if it is a relative or who ever it it is doesn't make a difference, they haver done an evil action. He explains that the good is the ways or pious and the evil is the impious. Socrates brings up the fact he is charged with impiety but yet what makes him so evil, he may not think the same of good and evil or gods. He asks for three examples..Euth simplifies that piety is dear to the gods and impiety is endear.
The relationship the gods and piety is that the loved are the ones of piety and the disliked are the ones or impiety, but all is to be both for all do things or impiety and piety. So the gods are siding with the holy or those who are dear to them or those who sacrifice the one who they hold dear ones. Murder is hateful to the gods and unjust so Euth will go against his father due to his side of piety and yet will show his side of impiety towards his father for going against his action in murder.
But socrates cannot see the matters of the pious being the only ones loved by gods for we are all human and make unjust full moves in life so also the impious must be loved as well in a way.
The difference between good and evil itself is unjust, all humans make actions that they consider not of their nature or "Unholy". Morals are important but from a personal point .. but many may be loved and have piety but do not have morals. Their are people that live on the guidelines or impurity but have reasons to do so, they cannot stop themselves from hurting another for they are being forced into making themselves hurt to please another then hurting them in return, love plays a huge part in this. But is love just a word that is thrown around like a ball? Gods and angels are said to love us all even when we do wrong but isn't that how we "Learn in life"? The simple stealing a candy from a store as a child, would they say that god hates them and wants them dead? Or course not, Morals are grown as you do right and wrong. As the young grow old you morals grow like a plant, soon to bear fruit, your children will learn the same. But in my friends point, she wet is to use her morals, she knows her morals but refuses to enforce them for she only thinks herself as a child loved by god so to speak, when she older then me she yet is to grow a wise perception in life. I have learned that there isn't a good nor evil.
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ReplyDeleteWhat is piety, truly? Sadly, in place of a concrete definition, Plato's Euthyphro gives us nothing but a first-hand display of Socrates's uncanny ability to verbally eviscerate these supposed "men of wisdom" and reveal them as impostors. Socrates, impressed at first with the audacity of Euthyphro, seeks to learn from him the true meaning of piety, believing that this religious truth will help him in his own defense against Meletus, Socrates himself facing charges related to piety and the gods. Euthyphro makes his way through several different convoluted definitions, insisting on headache-inducing paradoxical situations between what is holy, loved, dear, and pious, claiming first that it is something that all the gods would agree is dear, though Socrates points out that this is impractical enough for humans, then claiming that what is just is pious, Socrates again stopping him by saying some of what is just is not pious, and then, finally, claiming that a pious act is an exchange of prayer or sacrifice for gifts from the gods. Socrates is left with not a single sound word or truth as the ignorant Euthyphro flees the conversation. We, the readers, have a similar feeling of irony, having been sent through the gauntlet of Euthyphro's false mastery and wisdom that felt so real and powerful in the opening sections; if nothing else, we have learned that Socrates is a powerful debater.
ReplyDeleteWe are left with no help on the gods and their relationship with piety; we know that it is an act made with reverence of the gods in mind, but we are left with no specifics. Perhaps one can only say that since we truly do not know if something is pious because it is dear to the gods or if something is dear to the gods because it is pious, the piety of an act is subjective, depending entirely on the individual reverence or defiance of the gods the person had in mind when acting.
As an aside, is there a reason the "circular reasoning" definition and Socrates's dissertation of it was written in such a confusing manner? It seems like it could be greatly simplified for the modern reader.
JohnVeranes
" Perhaps one can only say that since we truly do not know if something is pious because it is dear to the gods or if something is dear to the gods because it is pious, the piety of an act is subjective, depending entirely on the individual reverence or defiance of the gods the person had in mind when acting."-JohnVeranes
ReplyDeleteInteresting, so would it be wrong of me to say that some of the biggest achievers of civil rights and the road to becoming a more mixed world are not pious?
Sometimes one must do wrong to do right, but the right its always going to be wrong evil or good to others. Dear to god some of the kings said that god had chosen them, dose that make some dear to them or there blinded by the power of a god. Like a king is ment to love his town,nation or country like if a god loved a pious individual.
In Socrates discussion with Euthyphro, Socrates begins to ask him questions on how to precisely define piety and impiety so he may then become a disciple of Euthyphro and confront Meleteus and let him know that he is a believer of the gods and now he leads a better life through the teachings of Euthyphro in order to escape meleteus indictment.
ReplyDeleteAccording to Euthyphro the relationship between the goods and piety is that which is dearest to the gods but Socrates then creates many scenarios that tangles Euthyphyro words and forces him to contract his definition of the word piety. it is still unclear to me the actual definition to the word due to the fact for every possible definition Euthyphyro came up with Socrates was able to find a flaw which made the definition seem like it lacked a foundation for its meaning.
From this discusion i learned that socrates was indeed was due to the fact that it seem as if he had a notion that nothing in the world had an absolute answer and everything and everyone can be questioned. it seems as if he is empty and is looking for an absolute truth to any question he ask. i admire him for his curiosity and him being wary of the world
the conversation between socrates and euthyphro takes palace at the kings archon which like a court house socrates was there to learn more about the charges brought against him,while euthyphro was there to pursue case.euthyphro was curious to know why socrates was at the king archon so he asked him what he was doing there,socrates explains to him that he had been charged with creating his own god and corrupting the youths.socrates also asked euthyphro what his quest was,he revealed to socrates that he was pursuing a case against his father for murder.socrates was amused but thought euthyphro must have a broad knowledge on on religious matters to be able to pursue such a case against his father.socrates decides to learn from euthyphro on religious matters such as piety and impiety,so as to use in defending himself in his pending case with meletues.socrates tells euthyphro he wanted to know the definition of piety and impiety.euthyphro tells him its what his doing now persecuting anyone who is guilty of murder or any similar crime.socrates refuses the definition stating that its was an example stating that he wanted a more elaborate definition.euthyphro comes up with another one defining it as doing what is dear to the gods and impiety is what is not dear to the gods,socrats at first praise the definition because its precise in a general form,but then again socrates argues that there were stories about disagreement between the gods as to what is pleasing so a particular action may be contradicting to the gods as it may be pious and impious at the same time,which is reasonably not possible.euthyphro tells socrates that the gods will not disagree about punishing someone who has committed murder.socrates argues that there is some justification on euthphro fathers side so there would still be a disagreement,making the act pious and impious.
ReplyDeleteeuthyphro tries to come up with a more precise definition,so he comes up with a third definition stating that what is dear to all the gods is pious and what they all hate is impious.socrates ask euthyphro a very dire question,is pious or holy is beloved by the gods because it is holy? or holy because it is beloved of the gods?euthyphro argued back and forth with socrates.socrates still finding fault with the definition suggest a definition for piety stating that If it is agreed that piety is part of or a kind of justice, then the question to ask is what part of justice it is.he then again points out that hes suggestion was still not enough for a definition,since piety was seen as actions morally good.euthyphro then suggest piety is concerned with attending to the gods, as there is the other part of justice which attending to men.socrates still not satisfied with the definition argued with euthyphro about attending to the gods.euthyphro was then again forced to come up with another defination stating that piety is offering gifts and praying to the gods and asking for favor in return.socrates refuses it again stating that what benefit would the gods get from gifts from men.euthyphro not being able to find a precise definition for socrates decides to skip the conversation by making an excuse that it was time for him to go.
from this conversation we find out how socrates uses question to expose men you claim to be wise and are ignorant of what they are doing.
Socrates seeks help from Euthyphro, and tells him that he is being prosecuted by Meletus. Socrates wants to know Euthyphros point of view, but Euthyphros starts to talk about prosecuting his father because he has committed murder. Euthyphros started to mention if the man his father killed deserved to die or not. Well he did mention that the man that worked for Euthyphros father had murdered someone else his father seemed to seek revenge. When Socrates asked about piety Euthyphros always gave him an indirect answer until Euthyphros submitted, “Piety was dear to the gods and impiety was not dear to the gods”. What I have learned from this is that there is always another perspective when you look upon the acts of other people do they really deserve punishment of not.
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Socrates notices Euthyphro's knowledge in religion and wants to learn more about it so he can challenge Meletus in court. Socrates asks Euthyphro what is piety and impiety. Socrates seeks to learn and understand religion and why piety is related to Gods and why impiety is related to evil.
ReplyDeleteThe relationship the Gods and piety is that whatever is thought of as good or right to the Gods then it is considered piety, and whatever is thought of as bad or wrong then it is considered impiety.
After reading this discussion about religion, piety versus impiety, between Socrates and Euthyphro, I have learned from Socrates to question what you believe in. If there is no apropriate answer then why believe in it? Not necessarily with God or religion, but with other things in life as well. Socrates has a way to question things to argue his point because with every answer there can be another question.
Socrates is bascially discussing with Euthypho about his points of views on various topics discussed within their conversation. Socrates specifically ask Euthyphro the meaning of peity and impeity and to define them in a way that is percise and not explained. He first states that "piety is doing as I am doing," prosecuting any one who is guilty of crime, no matter who they are, friends, family, etc., and impeity is the opposite. This wasn't quite clear to Socrates, he saw the words deifitions as examples. He than asked Euthyoho to agian define "peity" and "impeity." Euthypho explains perciely that peity is something dear to the gods, while impeity was something which was not dear to them.
ReplyDeleteIn this passage the relationships between gods and piety states that with every just action is something unjust. This means that there's always going to be an opposite on something good, its called evil or bad, an opposite to honor, its called dishonor. All these comparisons can be loved by gods but also hated by gods. With this comes peity. Scorates questions that if someone is influnced by evil shouldn't they be punished by these gods, even though they plead innocence? All this is determined by that god. "All that gods hate is impious, and what they love pious or holy..."
Though there is no conclusion, I have learned as people, we do things not only within our eyes but within the eyes of others. Maybe these others are our gods, but we satisfiy not only our needs but the needs of others. For example, seeing and being seen, leading and being led. But easily these assumptions can be flipped. We can see things but visualize something else, this is an example of the state of action or passion. "We can be loved by God because it is holy, not to be holy because it is loved." I also learned that Scorates is smarter than he thinks. He usually is asking Euthypho for instruction but if you observe he is basically insructing himself. =)
"I have learned from Socrates to question what you believe in. If there is no apropriate answer then why believe in it? Not necessarily with God or religion, but with other things in life as well..." --nafeezah
ReplyDeleteI agree but kind of things in life? When people grow to believe in something they can't really change how they feel about it, unless it wasn't there choice to begin with.
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ReplyDeleteThough there is no conclusion,what have you learned from this discussion?
ReplyDeleteThere is no conclusion...there is just the conversation between Socrates and Euthyphro but the most important thing is the conversation between them to get to know each other and to be spiritually awakend something by having a conversation with each other.
I have learned the importance of using brain and when and how to nod.Two of them are friends and they know each other very well and they are not offensive since they are not only know themselves very well but also they are spiritually awakend a lot.These factors make their conversation smooth and easy to understand though it is still abstract and a little bit difficult to understand...
I felt "Euthyphro" was easier to understand than "apology" because it was more conversational and less abstract.
Yumiko
Socrates wants to know what the nature of pious or impious are, he wants to know
ReplyDeletewhat the natural states of the two are. Since their essences are found in a great many
things, acts and objects, Socrates wants to know what their essences look like before
"the more extended notion" is present. A description of their true essences.
Piety as I understand it is an essence viewed differently according to which god the act
is being judged. As said, which I agree with, that different gods hold different acts to
be pious and impious. Assuming this is correct the relationship between piety and the
gods can be described as acts, or things, or objects that the gods, or said god, find
evolving or devolving to man.
I have learned that the essence of something is very much different than the terms
used to describe it. Hence it seems that there is no one single truth (essence), or at
least one that is VERY hard to find, to any object for this said essence may be found in
many different objects, so to hone in one can take a life time. Think it took whatseems
like half a day or so for Socrates to make plain his question to Euthyphro.
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ReplyDeleteIn this dialogue Socrates is giving Euthyphro the benefit of the doubt but little did Euthyphro know that all he was doing was testing his intelligence to use it to his advantage. Socrates was so egger to learn the true definition of piety because it would help him backup his arguments against what he was accused of impiety. Euthyphro Was very arrogant and ignorant he thought he new the meaning of piety defining it as:
ReplyDelete“Piety is doing as I am doing; that is to say, prosecuting anyone who is guilty of murder, sacrilege, or of any other similar crime—whether he be your father or mother, or some other person, that makes no difference—and not prosecuting them is impiety”
Euthyphro definition did not convince Socrates that it was the right one. Euthyphro did not define it but rather gave Socrates examples of pious behavior. The true meaning was left unanswered and instead was replaced with an example imitating what’s part of the definition.
Piety is doing what they thought was right under the rules of gods. More like pleasing the gods. Sacrificing not carrying if it was holy or not. Socrates couldn’t understand how this behavior was part of their lives and daily practice. All of his questions were left without an explanation.
I learned how important knowledge can be. It is best to know a little of something then not knowing at all. For example how all the people from Athens did not have a clue what was piety and impiety? Mean while a jury that did not have the understanding to solve his case was prosecuting Socrates. And how the quote Ignorance is bliss is misinterpreted.
Euthyphro is considered to be a highly religious man that knows everything there is to know about matters regarding the gods and holiness. He is known for making prophesies to others and can predict the future. Socrates meets with Euthyphro and informs him that he is being prosecuted by Meletus, for corrupting the youth of Athens. Euthyphro tells him that he must bear going through this injustice and assures him that he will come out fine in the end. As we all know, Socrates is executed after his trial, showing that Euthyphro wasn’t really an actual prophet or could predict the future as he so claims.
ReplyDeleteEuthyphro tells Socrates that he is prosecuting his father, and Socrates believes that he must possess a lot of knowledge to be making such a gallant move. Euthyphro says he does and then goes on to explaining the story about his worker that worked for him on his farm, who, in a drunken rage slit the throat of a servant and his father simply bound him, and threw him in a ditch while awaiting the interpreter, the official who takes care of these matters. The man died of the cold weather and hunger. Socrates then again says that he must be very knowledgeable to have taken on such a great task and Euthyphro assures him again that he is wise in religious things.
Socrates then asks Euthyphro if he could teach him all he knew, so he could defend himself in court, and can say that he learned everything he knows from Euthyphro, so if anything he should be prosecuted. He continues to ask Euthyphro to teach him in all things pious. So Euthyphro goes on to give an inaccurate definition of piety which he says that those who prosecute those who commit injustices are holy and those who don’t are unholy. Here he then gives the example of the Greek myth he says he deeply believes in. Socrates then says he can leave the teaching for later, because he has come to realize that he is not that knowledgeable and wise as he claims after all.
The relationship between the gods and piety can be seen when Socrates asks Euthyphro this: "Is the pious loved by the gods because it is pious, or is it pious because it is loved by the gods?" Basically asking: Is the holy loved by the gods because it’s holy, or is it holy because it is loved by the gods?
There is no clear relationship that is found between the gods and piety because there is no clear evidence that states that whatever the gods command is right is pious and whatever they command against isn't.
After reading this text, I have learned (with Euthyphro) that holiness is not effortlessly defined and that possibly I am more ignorant than I thought. I couldn’t come up with my own definition for piety simply because there is no single feature that all pious deeds have in common.
Socrates is asking for two things. First he's asking Euthyphro to more or less advocate for him by claiming to be his disciple. In this case he could challenge Meletus by asking him how is it that he acknowledges Euthyphro to be a great theologian and a sound speaker but condemns him which is his pupil.
ReplyDeleteSocrates though is more adamant in wanting to know the true definition of piety and impiety for Miletus is accusing him of impiety to the Gods. If he knew the meaning of piety and his impiety then he could argue that he is within piety with the Gods and should not be condemned.
Piety is the art of which Gods and men have of doing business with one another. It is also the part of justice which attends to the Gods as the other part attends to men. Also it is the science of asking and giving basically learning how to please the gods in word and in deed, prayers and sacrifices. It's the salvation of families and states and impiety leads to ruin and destruction.Still with all this definition Socrates still wasnt satified with the unpreciesness of Euthyphro.
Courtney Brown
ReplyDeleteThis exerpt goes into great deatil about the measures humans take in efforts to find themselves. Socrates is talking to Euthyphro about his court case and why this man is prosecuting him. They also speak on what is acceptale to the gods and what isnt. He makes one of the greatest points that ive ever come across when he states that people fear what they dont understand and thats humans generally dont have a problem with individual thinking untill there thoughts and actions are influincing other minds. I thought it was very intresting that socrates still gives Meletus credibiltiy for his prosecution. He states that Meletus is wise because he cares about the molding of childrens minds. Euthyphro then begins to talk about prosecuting his own father for murder. Socrates states that it takes a wise man to comitt murder and i deffintley disagree with this statement. I dont belive that it takes any kind of thought process to comitt such a crime. The two then start taling about piety and unpiety, which is basically the things that are acceptable and unacceptable to the gods. The best point made is that there are certain topics and situations that are going to be acceptable top some gods, while other gods will look down on such situations. Although there is no conclusion we the readers deffintley learn that humans are complex individuals with different thoought processes. Although we can agree on certain things, we should all have our own opinons about right and wrong.
Socrates was absolutely and brilliantly fabulous!!
ReplyDeleteHe geniunely sought out the opinion of Euthyphro since he was someone that was a self-proclaimed authority on matters of the gods specifically piety in this case, only to find that there simply isn't one answer, but that it is something that must be arrived upon by a questioning of the elements of a particular instance. The reason there is no absolute and definitive answer as there would be in mathematics, or natural science, is as Socrates stated it, the gods have disputes and quarrels amongst themselves in similar fashion as men do, and it could even be ARGUED as I certainly would and do like to, that he is hinting at the idea that we the human race are on the same level as the gods so we therefore are forced to approach issues of a huminatarian nature in the same fashion that is illustrated of the gods by the poets.
Socrates seek to know from Euthyphro What is piety? and what is impiety? Then, Euth. gives his definition, which is<>. Then, Socrates wiil develops this notion of piety and impiety as the discussion is on going.For example Socrates will connect the idea of piety and impiety to Pious and impious thatis to say someone who loves gods is pious and someone who does not is impious.
ReplyDeleteSocrates thinks that piety is a science of asking and giving of the gods.Also said that piety is an art which gods and men have business whith one another.
Socrates hopes that he will enlight meletus by telling the real truth about how people are different, then we must get along for better life, rather than accusing one another.
As I read all these cooments, I notice that socrates was an intelligent and genious man. He was able to connect piety and impiety to pious and impious, to love and hate, to similarity and difference,to asking and giving of gods for the purpose to make mankind's life better.
ReplyDeleteIn Plato's "Euthyphro"; Socrates has a chance encounter with Euthyphro before his trial.
ReplyDeleteAfter a brief discussion, Socrates learns that Euthyphro is about to commence a trail in which he will be persecuting his own father for murder.
Euthyphro states the reason he is bringing his father before trail is because he believes that no one, not even family is beyond persecution of such an "unholy" act as murder.
"prosecuting any one who is guilty of murder, sacrilege, or of any similar crime-whether he be your father or mother, or whoever he may be-that makes no difference; and not to prosecute them is impiety." Said, Euthyphro.
With Euthyphro believing he has a divine definition of right and wrong, Socrates argues whether or not it's a simple as black and white.
He humors Euthyphro by saying that with himself being as unwise as his is, he would rather enjoy gaining wisdom from such a schooled man on the subject religion.
Quickly the conversation turns to what is considered holy and unholy, and what defines them as such.
Socrates questioned Euthyphro's logic in which he used to decided what was considered right and wrong.
So the question becomes What is Piety and what is not.
Euthyphro answers; "Piety, then, is that which is dear to the gods, and impiety is that which is not dear to them."
After starting his claim, Socrates argued that if you believe the poets and tales of the gods; they are constantly at war with one another over disagreements. So how could one god be right and another be wrong if they are both arguing over things that are as ambiguous as right and wrong.
So how could something be holy if the holy because the gods agree that it's holy, if that same holy act the gods show to argue about.
both Socrates and Euthyphro converse back and forth each making supporting their claims.
Ultimately what I took out from this discussion was that while we might believe that arriving at a decision when posed with a moral dilemma might be as simple as solving a math problem; circumstances are hardly numerical values one could just plug into a math problem. There are no definite formulas one could use to arrive a conclusion with out ultimately, conducting further consideration and just a bit of soul searching.
Socrates is trying to know what is piety and impiety. He meets with Eutyphro, and ask him the question. When he gets to know that Eutyphro rose and acussation of murder towards his own father, he gets in a deep conversation with him. Eutyphro who has a very broad understanding of theological studies, then gets to be a very important person to interview for Socrates. Socrates finds out that by trying to decode the importance of piety and impiety with the help of Eutyphro, he will be able to have an strong argument against the accusations of Meletus, who accuses him of not believing in gods. Socrates and Eutyphro get into a very deep conversation. In which they come to point out several points such as; piety it’s a process, not totally an state, and that piety might also be seen as correct or incorrect in the eyes of all gods. Then they try to differentiate the holiness of the mortals and their gods. For humans piety comes along several deeds that led to fairness. Humans then dedicate piety to their gods. Holiness begins with piety and ends up with the blessing of the gods. There are several factors that make this conversation so valuable. Socrates helps us to make our mind work, with his questions about faith, and the processes of becoming. Eutyphro’s inabilities to respond explicitly to the inquiries of Socrates makes us wonder; if the people that are in charge of managing churches really know, the difference between mortal faith and the holy faith. Also to be very careful about the words we speak during a conversation, we must let our words placed upon firm concepts, and not let ignorance run away with our words.
ReplyDeleteAt the beggining of "Euthyphro" Socrates shows himself as a very modest man even though he knows he's very well known by his "wisdom" that he does not admit he has. Later using his method of asking questions, making Euth say all he need it to hear. Which shows us again that indeed he was a very wise man, because instead of assuming what happened he asks and the man speaks his mind. By letting Euth tell him the reasons of his actions i feel that he is taking advantage of the words that are comming out of his mouth, twisting them around so they sound more in Socrates side. By reading this dialogue i have a better idea of why Socrates is consider 'the father of philosophy', his way of in my words 'playing with the minds' [ not corrupting them] is a very interesting one; for example when Socrates asks Euth if he thought that "the gods fought with one another" and at the end he asked his if he thought it was true, I see this as a way of teaching the mind, is this case Euth's, how to think in a more critical way and not just go by what he thinks is right or wrong but to go deeper.
ReplyDeleteI also notice that Socrates was not forcing Euth to express his thoughts, but he asked him again if he was willing to keep talking. Each of them have a different argument of the same problem and they go through it the entire dialogue but, to me, Socrates as he was wiser was making his point stronger, using the same words that Euth was using but teaching him that what he was saying could be interpret in other ways.
1. Socrates was seeking for wisdom regarding ‘piety’ in order todefend himself better against Meletus’s accusation of him for beingimpiety.2. According to Euthyphro, piety is that thing or person which is dearto the gods. Although Euthyphro tried to demonstrates therelationship between the gods and piety using various logics andarguments, he eventually failed.3. Sometimes we fake ourselves with self-righteousness. In otherwords, our action or word often contains ironies. I learned that Ineed to think about the order of the incident or relationshipcarefully before I act or speak.
ReplyDelete1)In the conversation between socrates and Euthyphro Socrates seeks to know the nature of Piety and Impiety. When Socrates mmets Euthyphro he is informed that he was being prosecuted and accused of Impiety. I believe that Socrates was testing Euthyphro's wisdom in order to use it to his own advantage and benefit. 2) The Relationship between God and Piety is that Loved ones are Piety and the ones that werent were Impiety. Aslo the God's side with the holy ones and those who sacrifice what's most important and meaningful to them for the sake of God. 3) Though there is no conclusion to this story I have learned that you grow to become wiser through your faults, no one is born wise but become it through mistakes and situations that is put forth upon us. We must be very careful in the words we speak, "Incompetence is best served cold".
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